WikiIndex talk:RecentChanges patrol

Do I need new glasses, or are all the exclamation marks gone on RecentChanges? &mdash;User:Sean Fennel @ 03:03, 27 May 2006 (EDT)
 * I still see them, except on pages that've been patrolled. TedErnst | talk 16:53, 28 May 2006 (EDT)
 * Found out why I can't see them: It seems that the "patrol" permission isn't automatically granted to regular users as of 1.6. &mdash;User:Sean Fennel @ 22:54, 21 June 2006 (EDT)

is this an option we need to turn on? TedErnst | talk 01:34, 22 June 2006 (EDT)

The update to version 6.5 implemented a different scheme of user privileges I have listed the default values below. We don't want to give any special privileges to regular users because those could be used by spammers. I propose that we create a new user group "Editors" for people who we trust and who work on the wiki content, we can then create a set of "Sysop Like" permissions that would allow things like patroling. The last section in this list is my suggestions for permissions for the "Editors" group. John 13:52, 4 July 2006 (EDT)


 * I would rather turn off the recent changes patrol flag. I am not in favor of making more complexity than what is needed.  My two cents ;-) MarkDilley

Can't we just give users the patrol ability? Patrol can't be used maliciously, can it? The only thing it could do would be to hide spam a bit, but that's a lot better than turning off the patrol function. I use the patrol function and really like it. Plus, I'd like others to be able to use it as well (like Sean). TedErnst | talk 13:30, 5 July 2006 (EDT)


 * That would be fine, just concerned about expanding admin functions. MarkDilley

could you say more about this concern? we wouldn't be giving anyone permission to do anything they can't already do, except for patrolling recent changes - unless I'm missing something, this feature can be isolated from everything else, so there would be no admin powers granted (although I'd love to see us expand admin powers to more people, but that's a seperate issue) TedErnst | talk 18:46, 5 July 2006 (EDT)


 * I want wiki to stay as simple as possible. By creating new administration levels, such as John metioned above is counter to that. I think it is fine if a regular user can use this function, but am against expanding the categories of administration on this wiki.  I also agree that I would like to move regular contributors to our admin level. MarkDilley

Just to clarify, I don't support the idea of an "editor." I'd like to simply give regular users the ability to patrol recent changes. Let's take our admin proposal to a new page, shall we? TedErnst | talk 19:35, 5 July 2006 (EDT)

$wgGroupPermissions = array;

// Implicit group for all visitors $wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['createaccount']   = true; $wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['read']            = true; $wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['edit']            = true; $wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['createpage']      = true; $wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['createtalk']      = true;

// Implicit group for all logged-in accounts $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['move']           = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['read']           = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['edit']           = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['createpage']     = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['createtalk']     = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['upload']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['reupload']       = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['reupload-shared'] = true; $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['minoredit']      = true;

// Implicit group for accounts that pass $wgAutoConfirmAge $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['autoconfirmed'] = true;

// Users with bot privilege can have their edits hidden // from various log pages by default $wgGroupPermissions['bot' ]['bot']             = true; $wgGroupPermissions['bot' ]['autoconfirmed']   = true;

// Most extra permission abilities go to this group $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['block']          = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['createaccount']  = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['delete']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['deletedhistory'] = true; // can view deleted history entries, but not see or restore the text $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['editinterface']  = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['import']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['importupload']   = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['move']           = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['patrol']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['protect']        = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['rollback']       = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['upload']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['reupload']       = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['reupload-shared'] = true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['unwatchedpages']	= true; $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['autoconfirmed']  = true;

// Permissions for the proposed "editor" group $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['block']          = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['createaccount']  = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['delete']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['deletedhistory'] = true; // can view deleted history entries, but not see or restore the text $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['editinterface']  = false; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['import']         = false; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['importupload']   = false; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['move']           = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['patrol']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['protect']        = false; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['rollback']       = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['upload']         = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['reupload']       = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['reupload-shared'] = true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['unwatchedpages']	= true; $wgGroupPermissions['editor']['autoconfirmed']  = true;

I don't know about block or delete as that's really just missing protect to be, in essence, the same thing as sysop, but deletedhistory and patrol ought to be given, and rollback just removes a couple of clicks from something everybody with read and edit permissions can already do. &mdash; User:Sean Fennel@ 12:06, 30 August 2006 (EDT)

Cruising on auto-pilot?
So, here I am, a newcomer poking around, trying to figure out what kind of place this is, what ways I might want to get involved... And I can quickly see who the core people seem to be...  But when I look at core infrastructure, like this page, it seems like there was a founding phase of high energy a while back, and now things are -- coasting? Languishing? Cruising on auto-pilot? Neglected? If you admins are still percolating, it would be good to see updates here and similar places, from time to time - or a link to wherever ongoing related conversations are actually occurring.--69.87.200.20 04:33, 30 January 2007 (PST)

IP ban request
Somebody please ban 65.44.66.100? And 217.77.36.131, while you're at it. This one has come back twice in a row. FYI, a visitor adding random words to several pages is a spammer testing the ground for a full scale attack. And no, they can't change IPs so easily, so banning them is effective.

Thanks -- Felix Pleşoianu | talk 00:34, 4 October 2007 (EDT) I did block them for short, if they do it again, this will be for a longer period --Wolf | talk 05:55, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Special:Contributions/65.44.66.100
 * Special:Contributions/217.77.36.131