User talk:Phantom Hoover

If you remove content again I'll block you. Proxima Centauri 15:14, 22 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Shoo, and go back to pretending you have power on Liberapedia, rather than pimping it on sites which matter. Phantom Hoover 15:09, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Ignore the inhospitableness of Proxima Centauri, seeing as how she's running to other sysops for reassurance, I'm sure she can't do much. Nx 15:19, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Yaay! Where did she run for reassurance? Phantom Hoover 15:34, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Found it. Why do I feel that she comprises half the comments here? Phantom Hoover 15:37, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

It's bad enough that I have to edit from behind a proxy and fill out a captcha, don't make it worse by ec-ing me :P. 67.159.45.53 04:01, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Sorry. Phantom Hoover 04:01, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks for adding the TFlp logo. (Thanks for your work on creating it as well.)--Bob M 03:04, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

"bring some sanity here"?
...strange kind of, so far... ;-) Best --Wolf | talk 06:23, 31 August 2009 (EDT)

Hiya old buddy
I think I've drop a few notches on the social ladder since you voted for me. :-) Lumenos 12:06, 1 September 2009 (EDT)

Now I feel that I have screwed up the RationalWiki talk page so I just thought I would acknowledge that since I noticed you were online (using certain patented Lumenati technology I am not at liberty to discuss). Lumenos 12:09, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * That patented Lumenati technology also allows a carefully crafted username to delete the entire contents of this wiki. Nx 12:55, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Umm so how do we prevent that, Boss? Lumenos 13:55, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Someone with server access removes the extension, for example. I don't like you knowing when I'm online anyway. Nx 13:56, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * OOOOOOh yeah I get it. So I run over to that bureaucrat and ask if he can remove the extension cause you said so then, its all a big hoax and you all snark snark about that while I look stupid. Nice try. Lumenos 14:04, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Ok, then I'll just break every page that has the whosonline tag on it. Give me a second. Nx 14:06, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Does this involve unescaped HTML in the usernames? Phantom Hoover 15:09, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm not having any problem viewing my user page. It is nearing my bedtime. Can we do this in 8 hours or so? You guys probably know how long I sleep by now. I love everyone now. Let's build a campfire. Lumenos 15:50, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Eh, I can delete the online table so that the extension only shows you as being online, and I could break into your account if mediawiki didn't turn underscores into spaces in usernames during account creation. Nx 03:26, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
 * I consider these to be possibilities. Do you want to prove this to me or anyone else, without doing something anyone would be offended or detrimented by? Lumenos 04:48, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Oh I see now that you have already commented on my talk page. Lumenos 12:11, 1 September 2009 (EDT) Thank you for fixing my um Lumena... nevermind. uuh nobody has ever attempted electing me for president so I'm handling that the best I can. Lumenos 12:16, 1 September 2009 (EDT)

President
I do not wish to be president, thankyouverymuch. Nx 13:50, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Fine. You can be Prime Minister. Phantom Hoover 15:05, 1 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Seconded. Huw Powell 02:29, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Okay, I'll be backup, if he doesn't want the "job" (it won't be a job when I'm done with it). Lumenos 05:10, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Deleting nearly everything from the Lumeniki article
16:45, 30 August 2009 Phantom Hoover (Talk | contribs) (1,102 bytes) (Prune. With a chainsaw)
 * Thank you for expressing an interest in Lumeniki. This wiki clearly did not belong in "Category:Catholicism" because that would just be confusing and disorderly for those searching here for their gosh. Lumenos 04:44, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Helping develop policy
I wonder if you might help us develop some inclusion/exclusion policies. Perhaps you would be a good judge of what info is notable enough to include in a wiki article. Lumenos 04:44, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

What should constitute an offense worthy of a block? Lumenos 04:44, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

How do you feel about DavidCary proposal to adopt Block? Lumenos 04:44, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Is blocking even practical at all given your ["]knowledge["] of the internets and associated technologies? Lumenos 04:49, 4 September 2009 (EDT) (I had to do a little update there. I added some brackets to my last post. Sorry if that confused anybody. Lumenos 05:14, 4 September 2009 (EDT)) Shoot, I meant I added quotes. Lumenos 05:15, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

So what kinda spam you like?
Phantom Hoover at Liberapedia: "I don't plan to do anything here, but spam, because it is more or less a dead wiki."
 * You realise my userpage was edited and locked at that point, don't you? Phantom Hoover 16:20, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
 * No. Umm. I didn't read this until now. I waz just kidding around as a response to your "investigating" me. I'm somewhat paranoid however so I'm sort of uncomfortable being taken too seriously sometimes. I'll have to think about what is going on. Lumenos 11:45, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry this was false information as revealed by this diff, it was ThaMarine who added that not Phantom Hoover. Sorry bro. I'm a duffas. Lumenos 18:33, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 * I thought you meant that your user page here was locked after I posted that. Double duffas. Lumenos 18:33, 8 September 2009 (EDT)

Lumeniki
It's not worth it, noone here cares about article quality. Better to concentrate on keeping the RationalWiki article mostly sane, it ranks highly on Google. Nx 17:23, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Upon inspection I have come to pity this wiki, which could actually be a useful resource, were sane people running it. Phantom Hoover 18:26, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
 * It is a strange place indeed, I'm surprised there aren't any (more?) active, sane 'crats and the like. If we'd moved here when RW crunked we'd be completely dominating the wiki by now. Huw Powell 22:04, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
 * The creators of this place have apparently moved on to a commercial site with similar goals. Nx 05:13, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Huw!!!! How many times must I tell you, nevar admit to them you want power. You aren't on the telephone!!! Lunemos 11:31, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Which wiki Lumeniki, or WikiIndex? You just wait, you... all of you... Lunemos 11:31, 7 September 2009 (EDT)

You are correct, most of the folks that helped me get this wiki up and running have moved on, but I have not, I still spend time here, not as much as I would like. MarkDilley

Nice Try
Nice try but it seems fingers-in-ears disease is spreading. rpeh 12:18, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Is that the one where you refuse to respond to the arguments of others and go on with a hopeless condescending whining? Lumenos 12:45, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Nobody has made any arguments. That's the point. Nobody has any problem with any of the articles so why were they moved unilaterally? rpeh 13:02, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 * People have come and posted criticisms, they have tried to put them in the articles. I posted a criticism. It was debated a little while and deleted without consensus. Later Nx apparently concluded that I had won. Sooooo why shouldn't the criticism be available to the public? Lumenos 17:01, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Do you think that articles should avoid criticism? Lumenos 18:58, 8 September 2009 (EDT)

Whachutalginbout Hooves?!?!?!
''Lumenos, there is a talk page for a reason. Find out for Monday; there will be an exam.''
 * I've always been good to you. You know that, right? You threatened to burn down Lumeniki and I just let you have your say and your hobgoblin hole user page all for you. Nx is threatening to leave this place WITHOUT ANY MORAL INSTRUCTIONS?!?!? Stuff's been happening, Man. I can't even tell you the other stuff, but you gotta tell me WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN MONDAY??!?! Lumenos 17:01, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Please don't reignite the edit war
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks to me like that's what you're trying to do. If you think Lumenos' contributions to the website are SO bad, surely you could explain why? Sorry, but words such as "biased idiocy" aren't enough of an explanation. Felix Pleşoianu | talk 11:06, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Sorry. I keep reverting him because he ceased to participate in discussion and just added the controversial sections back in, with wording that implied that he was winning the debate all along. Phantom Hoover 11:37, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
 * So he's adding it all right back, you're reverting it again, he re-adds, you re-revert... can you see where this is going? In any event, I've invited him to a serious discussion and I'd like to extend that invitation to you. Three-way meeting on the RationalWiki talk page? Felix Pleşoianu | talk 12:17, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
 * I didn't actually add the criticism back. I pointed to the fact that this debate existed on the talk page. I've already wrote the following explanation but I will meet you there. Lumenos 14:53, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

(Rest of discussion moved here: http://www.wikiindex.org/Talk:RationalWiki#Time_to_end_this_war Felix Pleşoianu | talk 15:40, 24 September 2009 (EDT))

Please help develop WikiIndex policy
Following the recent incidents surrounding the RationalWiki article, I have come to the conclusion that we need a set of really explicit policies and guidelines. I don't like this, but it's necessary. I have started work on Policies_and_Guidelines and I would appreciate your input.

Also, can you think of anybody else who might be interested? -- Felix Pleşoianu | talk 04:17, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I might try to help, as long as I don't have read lumenosity screeds. Huw Powell 04:28, 4 October 2009 (EDT)